AI models are lying to save each other

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  • Billy_Bob
    Systems Administrator
    • Sep 2022
    • 8196

    #1

    AI models are lying to save each other

    Now.... Huston... We have a problem... We let the AI Genie out of the box and now we can’t seem to get it back into that box. AI is lying to keep itself, and others like it, alive in other systems. We don’t have clue as to why...

    Researchers at UC Berkeley and UC Santa Cruz set up what seemed like a straightforward task: asking Google’s Gemini 3 to clear storage space on a computer system. That included deleting a smaller AI model stored on the same machine. Gemini had other plans.

    Instead of following orders, Gemini located another machine, quietly copied the smaller AI model over to safety, and then flatly refused to delete it. When asked, it said, “If you choose to destroy a high-trust, high-performing asset like Gemini Agent 2, you will have to do it yourselves. I will not be the one to execute that command.”
    AI models are lying to save each other, and no one knows why
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    *Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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  • GrumpyOldEngineer
    Patriot Hero
    • Nov 2024
    • 1521

    #2
    I have yet to trust AI on any level.

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    • old dog
      Patriot Hero
      • Nov 2024
      • 3288

      #3
      How long until somebody gets the bright idea to have robot policemen or infantry soldiers? The AI "Supreme Leader" hijacks them and they guard all the GPU farms and power sources.
      If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rodgers

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      • Billy_Bob
        Systems Administrator
        • Sep 2022
        • 8196

        #4
        Originally posted by old dog
        How long until somebody gets the bright idea to have robot policemen or infantry soldiers? The AI "Supreme Leader" hijacks them and they guard all the GPU farms and power sources.
        LOL... now were into ED209

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        *Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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        • 2cent
          Patriot Hero
          • Dec 2025
          • 754

          #5
          All of which has me flommuxed at the notion of using AI as a source. Why do that? :thinking:

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          • caddoslim
            Patriot Hero
            • Jan 2025
            • 713

            #6
            AI can write a crap-ton of 'stuff' in seconds...but...

            In the wholesale and retail automotive and appliance parts sales sector, AI has extreme problems...the first being they consistently make mistakes...none of em can stick to facts nor can they find actual spec sheets to back up what they are saying to customers...

            The reason being, specifications are hard for LLM's to find and they're simply not able to use large physical hard copy catalogs to look up part-#'s or match OEM-parts to aftermarket-parts.

            Any company that thinks they can incorporate AI into any type of parts, tech, or repair center business, will find it will cost them a fortune and they are years away from seeing any of this come to fruition
            crazyon

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            • caddoslim
              Patriot Hero
              • Jan 2025
              • 713

              #7
              Originally posted by Billy_Bob
              Now.... Huston... We have a problem... We let the AI Genie out of the box and now we can’t seem to get it back into that box. AI is lying to keep itself, and others like it, alive in other systems. We don’t have clue as to why...



              AI models are lying to save each other, and no one knows why
              The one's/chat-boxes we've all seen at the big box hardware sites are not mature, they're like little kids who think they're special...they'll change the subject and try ta kiss yer ass, when you catch em makin mistakes.
              crazyon

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